pulsar_stu
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here here :lol: What he said :lol: :lol:DOT2DOT said:
PULSAR v SCOOBY
- Thread starter Roy Archer
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whos ramming what down anyones throat ? are you that f.o.o.king dumb that you think scoobs are my favourite car :shock: :lol: :lol:DOT2DOT said:
like i said, i'll stick by and defend gtirs all day long but theres absolutely no way you can say the gtir is a far better road car :? unless that is of course you are abit thick :roll: a uk wrx is a piece of cr@p, but some of the varients are very good
lets go back a few years, when jay gants fast road car was put up against a scooby, both similar power. etc.etc
guess what one was quicker ? i'll give you a clue, it wasn't the nissan
i'm not all for the impreza, as in all honsety i dont like them, nothing to do with the car, more to do with the amount (and type) of people that own them.
but you only have to look at whats available out the box for slightly more money than a gtir to see where your money would be better off spent.
The gtir is a cracking car 8) , i dont want to or wont own anything else but they are far from the best thing since sliced bread and if you newbie mongs actually spent anytime or effort with the poxy things instead of thinking 300bhp was awesome you'd soon realise it yourself :roll:
please be nice to me newbies :roll: :lol: :lol:
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rnash2002
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I was looking at a scooby,wouldnt have one though too much of a chavs car :lol:
pulsar_stu
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300 bhp is awsome for the road :roll: How many ppl use 350+ all day every day :?: its a safe bhp, not much money to get 300bhp, reliable and will kick most cars arzes on the road :lol:
Most of the R's that are running 400+bhp are used as a weekend car :!:
Or for track days :!: Like Ten of the best or to run up the strip to get the best 1/4 mile figures :!:
They are stripped out :!:
You wouldnt see them out and about on the street every day, they are not an every day car :!:
Most of the big power cars you see in mags or at shows are power company cars :!: They are not jo public cars :!:
Us newbies are at the stage of owning an R, wer you wer when you wer a newbie :lol: :lol: you forget to easily you wer just like us when you first had your little pocket rocket :!: :!: :!:
My R is virtualy standard and is fast as foook :lol: :lol: :lol:
And as soon as i have my profec b it will be awsome :lol: 320bhp here i come :lol: 1.1bar and kicking it large :lol: :lol:
Most of the R's that are running 400+bhp are used as a weekend car :!:
Or for track days :!: Like Ten of the best or to run up the strip to get the best 1/4 mile figures :!:
They are stripped out :!:
You wouldnt see them out and about on the street every day, they are not an every day car :!:
Most of the big power cars you see in mags or at shows are power company cars :!: They are not jo public cars :!:
Us newbies are at the stage of owning an R, wer you wer when you wer a newbie :lol: :lol: you forget to easily you wer just like us when you first had your little pocket rocket :!: :!: :!:
My R is virtualy standard and is fast as foook :lol: :lol: :lol:
And as soon as i have my profec b it will be awsome :lol: 320bhp here i come :lol: 1.1bar and kicking it large :lol: :lol:
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DOT2DOT
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Where exactly did I mention it being the best car out??? Scooby maybe not that expensive to buy the car, but add up the cost of insurance, maintainance, and the silly MPG's and it starts to get more than just a little bit extra. Everyones entitled to their opinion man! Fair enough I respect yours, scooby's are a fantastic car I love them. But when I say that ive raced my mates Sti V3 and sat neck-on-neck with him im not talking bull. It had the basic mods- exhaust, downpipe + decat, filter etc. So should have been 300 odd bhp anyway. Scoob cost a few quid more to buy, insurance was silly money, 10 odd mpg and the fact that it melted a piston a month after he got it, would make me think my R was more suited for me as a daily driver. Another friend had a UK2000 Turbo tuned and it smokes my R fair and square. Its had internals, and the engine is reliable, but what was the first thing to give??? Thats right the gearbox!!! Not that tough after-all I suppose. Whatever car you have, their will always be something quicker, but it normally requires £££. Not everyone has an abundance of it.
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Stoned
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What he said. I like Scoobys however, especially the sports wagon as they are practical and still fast
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stomski
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go test drive a few, go see chrisniss's R and then take out a few scoobies. if you go on the scooby forum then the answer is obvious.
bottom line is that the pulsars are getting old now, altho ur budget wont stretch to a decent (newish) scooby.
too many ppl think that spending thousands and thousands on modding cars will be worth while and you'll be better than every1 else. depending on how old you are, whether u live at home, got kids blah blah blah would sway ur decision. for comfort and room, plus the power (c'mon, their not slow) get a scooby. for RAW power, a rare car and fun to drive, get a pulsar (but have a pot of money reserved for when it goes bang)
just my 2 pence worth for the evening. :roll:
bottom line is that the pulsars are getting old now, altho ur budget wont stretch to a decent (newish) scooby.
too many ppl think that spending thousands and thousands on modding cars will be worth while and you'll be better than every1 else. depending on how old you are, whether u live at home, got kids blah blah blah would sway ur decision. for comfort and room, plus the power (c'mon, their not slow) get a scooby. for RAW power, a rare car and fun to drive, get a pulsar (but have a pot of money reserved for when it goes bang)
just my 2 pence worth for the evening.
:roll:300bhp aint s.h.i.t on a gtir, this is what i'm trying to say, it might seem fast but it isn't its just better than standard, you should be worrying about mid 300's to 400bhp with the sr20det.pulsar_stu said:
you're 300bhp gtir will admittedly be quicker than a standard scoob but stop kidding yourself its awesome cos it isn't and i can think of several 400bhp gtirs that are daily drives, 400bhp is acheivable on the standard engine but people are to happy settling with average :roll:
it isn't fast :roll: trust me
whooppeeee f.u.c.ki.ng doo :roll: :lol: :lol: i can barely contain my excitement at the prospect of it
one day you'll look back and say he was right all along
:lol: dont get me wrong i love my gtirs but without spending money on them they are slow, handle like s.h.i.t and feel like they're going to fall apart :shock: :lol: :lol: but standard wrxs are (and i will agree with everyone on this one) slower
:lol: but given the range of models, who'd have a standard wrx :?:
rayman75
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all this scooby Vs, is fairly funny but tiresome, i have just had a rally day this wkend in leicester, had a feckin excellent time you think you know how to drive then you go out with the experts and you relise you know nothing, anyway back on topic.
they had a tommi mak evo6 rally preped and a couple of scoobie STI nearly new.
the scoobie STI IMO is a cracking car straight out of the box so to say, it didnt feel as fast as my R in a staight line, but round the bends and in the chicanes it was awesome, it out handles my R which is lowerd with shocks (dont know how a R handles with coilovers yet). i thought the same as alot of people on here about scoobies but after driving one really hard for about 12laps of the course, i relise they are a very good car as std it didnt skip a beat but the brakes where smoking abit
best thing to do Roy is test drive both and make decision. i bought a R cos i always liked them, and scoobies are a bit common i just got pissssed off at seeing loads of them. :x
and the evo was a hell of a lot better here are some pics.
this is the scoob i drove. THIS IS NOT ME DRIVING im in the passenger seat
they had a tommi mak evo6 rally preped and a couple of scoobie STI nearly new.
the scoobie STI IMO is a cracking car straight out of the box so to say, it didnt feel as fast as my R in a staight line, but round the bends and in the chicanes it was awesome, it out handles my R which is lowerd with shocks (dont know how a R handles with coilovers yet). i thought the same as alot of people on here about scoobies but after driving one really hard for about 12laps of the course, i relise they are a very good car as std it didnt skip a beat but the brakes where smoking abit
best thing to do Roy is test drive both and make decision. i bought a R cos i always liked them, and scoobies are a bit common i just got pissssed off at seeing loads of them. :x
and the evo was a hell of a lot better here are some pics.
this is the scoob i drove. THIS IS NOT ME DRIVING im in the passenger seat
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mozza
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4.5K wont buy you a decent scooby!!!!
so wouldnt even bother if thats all you have to spend.
4.5K will buy you a decent pulsar - maybe with basic mods....so perhaps 280ish bhp.
the thing with pulsars (well apart from the rally ones)....standard they are all the same, but with scoobies there are so many different types....uk versions, stis, RAs, spec c's and so on.......
if you get a classic style sti ra it will easily beat a standard R, even a 1 bar R due to having 280bhp standard, very short ratio box (80mph and 4K rpm in 5th gear) and lightweight body.......high 12s standard car.
but if you say compare a uk scooby with a pulsar then a pulsar is quicker.
so not really a fair comparison saying a pulsar is faster than a scooby.
Agree with above posts.......pulsars standard aint that quick, handling aint too great and brakes are shite :roll: .........but is dosent cost that much to mod these areas (or just buy one with the mods already done and finish it off 8) )
overall with the money you got to spend then pulsar is defo the one to go for............cheaper to buy, cheaper to mod, rarer......and usually FASTER :lol:
buy a 400hp gtir and not much is catching you :lol: and much cheaper than buying an tuning a 400hp scooby.....much cheaper.
4.5K wont buy you a decent scooby!!!!
so wouldnt even bother if thats all you have to spend.
4.5K will buy you a decent pulsar - maybe with basic mods....so perhaps 280ish bhp.
the thing with pulsars (well apart from the rally ones)....standard they are all the same, but with scoobies there are so many different types....uk versions, stis, RAs, spec c's and so on.......
if you get a classic style sti ra it will easily beat a standard R, even a 1 bar R due to having 280bhp standard, very short ratio box (80mph and 4K rpm in 5th gear) and lightweight body.......high 12s standard car.
but if you say compare a uk scooby with a pulsar then a pulsar is quicker.
so not really a fair comparison saying a pulsar is faster than a scooby.
Agree with above posts.......pulsars standard aint that quick, handling aint too great and brakes are shite :roll: .........but is dosent cost that much to mod these areas (or just buy one with the mods already done
and finish it off 8) )overall with the money you got to spend then pulsar is defo the one to go for............cheaper to buy, cheaper to mod, rarer......and usually FASTER :lol:
buy a 400hp gtir and not much is catching you :lol: and much cheaper than buying an tuning a 400hp scooby.....much cheaper
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DOT2DOT
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If money was no object i can think of far better cars than either!
By the way Diesel Weasel - How old are you???
Thats all I was trying to say.mozza said:overall with the money you got to spend then pulsar is defo the one to go for............cheaper to buy, cheaper to mod, rarer......and usually FASTER :lol:
If money was no object i can think of far better cars than either!By the way Diesel Weasel - How old are you???
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like dave you've put it better than i did
But i'd add that pulsars are only cheap cos of the age and the amount of pure s.h.i.t thats out there, out the factory the scoob is, and honestly it pains me to say it a better car. The early ones are on a k plate ?? 93, yet the car still gets made 12 years later, the gtir died after 4 years
if nissan had stuck with it who knows what might've been but there was obviously someone far more sensible than any of us sat on the board of directors who decided enough is enough :lol: :lol:
mozza,mozza said:
like dave you've put it better than i did
But i'd add that pulsars are only cheap cos of the age and the amount of pure s.h.i.t thats out there, out the factory the scoob is, and honestly it pains me to say it a better car. The early ones are on a k plate ?? 93, yet the car still gets made 12 years later, the gtir died after 4 years
if nissan had stuck with it who knows what might've been but there was obviously someone far more sensible than any of us sat on the board of directors who decided enough is enough
:lol: :lol:
Rishi
Still waiting on some shims!
Just having 320bhp in a GTiR isn't that great to be honest...
Look at the Entry Level EVO's... 300 - 320bhp... Stronger engine, stronger gearbox, better suspension, etc...
Just having a 300bhp+ GTiR won't cut it... The average EVO these days has 400bhp... £1500 on an EVO9 will get you a reliable 400bhp... £1500 on a GTiR might just cover the repair bill.. :lol:
IMO when you have a decent setup - gearbox, suspension, cooling etc - GTiR with 400bhp+, then you have a decent road car...
Rishi
Look at the Entry Level EVO's... 300 - 320bhp... Stronger engine, stronger gearbox, better suspension, etc...
Just having a 300bhp+ GTiR won't cut it... The average EVO these days has 400bhp... £1500 on an EVO9 will get you a reliable 400bhp... £1500 on a GTiR might just cover the repair bill.. :lol:
IMO when you have a decent setup - gearbox, suspension, cooling etc - GTiR with 400bhp+, then you have a decent road car...
Rishi
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DOT2DOT
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You cant base your decision on how good a rally car they make??? Look at the escort cosworth - very successful in all forms of motorsport where it competed, and still widely used today. Make shitty road car though!!!
The R makes a fantastic daily drive, comfy, economical, reliable and this is coming from somone who used to drive a Mercedes Clk. Not everyone has to drive it like they stole it all the time!!! If your 30 youve got a lot of growing up to do mate!!! Go around talking to people like that all the time do we???
The R makes a fantastic daily drive, comfy, economical, reliable and this is coming from somone who used to drive a Mercedes Clk. Not everyone has to drive it like they stole it all the time!!! If your 30 youve got a lot of growing up to do mate!!! Go around talking to people like that all the time do we???
pulsar_stu
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STOP IT my belly is hurting me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Roflmao 8)deisel weasel said:300bhp aint s.h.i.t on a gtir, this is what i'm trying to say, it might seem fast but it isn't its just better than standard, you should be worrying about mid 300's to 400bhp with the sr20det.pulsar_stu said:
you're 300bhp gtir will admittedly be quicker than a standard scoob but stop kidding yourself its awesome cos it isn't and i can think of several 400bhp gtirs that are daily drives, 400bhp is acheivable on the standard engine but people are to happy settling with average :roll:
it isn't fast :roll: trust me
whooppeeee f.u.c.ki.ng doo :roll: :lol: :lol: i can barely contain my excitement at the prospect of it
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jiw
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If i where you id make the saving of the running costs, add that to £4500 and buy an integra type R, will be a lot more reliable and fun car for your money and should be hassle freeRoy Archer said:
Evo in pic is a stickered up V and not a V1 TME