Ported and polished head?

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shaun999

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Hi all
How much advantage is given by getting the head ported and polished. is it worth doing?

Shaun
 
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pulsarboby

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yes, especially if your running big cams and better flowing turbo elbow.
dont polish up inlet ports though as that will create less turbulance and you will not benefit at all, but by all means have the ports opened a little.

and be carefull who you choose to do the job! as a badly ported head which has not been gas flowed will lose you power and can cause very irratic running.
 
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shaun999

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Thanks bob. What would you expect to pay for this to be done?
 
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pulsarboby

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theres a guy in leeds thats supposed to be very good or the guy nr heathrow whos one of the best in the country who did mine.

not cheap, your looking around £350-400 for basic port and gasflow, thats with you doing all the valve work yourself.
but as i said be carefull who does the work as theres a lot of mickeymouse (what i call dremmel boys) about that will port n polish it so its all nice n shiny, but infact they have just ruined your head as none of the ports will flow the same, in which case youll end up with a slower car than if it were left standard.
 
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pulsarboby

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:lol: dont know his name (leeds guy) but i can find out if you want it, i know for a fact that the leeds guy and the one nr heathrow are two of the top people in the uk for this work (although i never had any dealings with the leeds chappie)

but both are always very busy and come highly recommended by people in motorsport.
 
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pulsarboby

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Radders said:
Whos this, I live near Heathrow and will be needing headwork soon!8)

pm me radders and il pm you his number tomorrow night;-)
 
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shaun999

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How much do you think will be gained by getting the heat ported etc? is it really worth doing?. Is your head done?
 

stevepudney

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personally, if you are using only mild or standard cams and are aiming for anything from standard to under 350 - 400 break I wouldn't bother getting the head flowed, especially if you intend to build a car for the road. You would be better off with new valve guides and getting your old (or new) valves lapped in properly.

If on the other hand you intend to build a track car with in excess of 400 break, wild cams and big turbo, there are 2 stages you could take. Don't even do the first stage if you feel you haven't got the skill or the tools. One of the most important things is the having the space and ability to clean everything up so it's spotless, after you've done the work, an industrial sized parts cleaner and compressor with a blow gun would be best.

First stage (won't do very much in real terms but it will make you feel better :-D ) would be to remove & number all the valves then by hand just lightly clean up the combustion chambers with scotchbrite and 400 W&D, removing any sharp edges or casting marks without taking out to much material, paying particular attention to the areas around the valve seats both inside the combustion camber and just inside the port (being very careful not to mark the valve seat itself). Don't bother touching the inlet ports but clean up the exhaust ports in the same way you did the combustion chamber, just removing any casting marks. Then once everything is how you want it clean it all up.
Once it's all clean and dry you can start lapping the valves in with fine lapping paste. Then remove all the valves again clean it all up again and assemble, putting it all back in the order you took it apart in.

The other option is taking your complete head with the new cams, valves an springs you plan on using to one of the specialists listed above and asking them to rebuild your head with new valve guides and seats to match your new valves, and being prepared to part with the best part of £600 - £700.

I have (but I can't remember who I used for the life of me) done both options in the past and the second option does make a difference on the right engine spec.

To answer your last question, on the second option provided you got he whole head rebuilt and ported/flowed by a specialist I would estimate you would gain another 10 – 15 bhp possibly more but it does depend on sooooooo many factors, what engine it is and the spec of that engine.

Like I said, if it’s a road car I wouldn’t bother unless you have deep pockets.
 
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pulsarboby

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totally have to agree with the above.
if its just gonna be a road car then dont waste your money!

what steve above has said is true but imo the first thing is a waste of time as after a few hundred miles carbon deposits will form and all that work has technically gone to waste, but like he says 'it doesnt hurt to do it if you want to'.

porting is a different story though and if you are running biggish power with wild cams then it will make a big increase in the torque of the engine.
when mine was first done i noticed it immediately the thing pulled like a train.

dont know on the guys work that ed has suggested but im sure they are ok.
the guy i used is kenny cooper racing nr heathrow and he is probably the best in uk as virtually all the race teams get him to do their headwork (that is all he does)


radders....pm sent fella!
 
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pulsarboby

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stevepudney said:
thats the bloke........................ I used him about 10 years ago (probably longer) on a 2.2 cossie head for my modded MK1 RS2000.
he did my cossie head too! ive used him on bikes & cars for last 15 years and hes never once not done an anything other than an A1 job. thats why so many people use him time n time again in the racing circuit.
hes one guy i would reccomend to anyone, miserable fooker but always produces the goods.

he aint the cheapest but deffo one of the best.

what did you think of his work steve?
 
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