Doesn't work out so cheap once you counter in shipping costs to the the Uk and Isle Of Man. I don't think any of the above is available UK.
i suppose thats up to u, cheap or something that doesnt feel like crap for a bit more. its subjective, everyone's ride quality and handling expectations are different. my handling expectations are high, i expect and want a car to do certain things, like turn in and actually dampen road irregularities. heheDoesn't work out so cheap once you counter in shipping costs to the the Uk and Isle Of Man. I don't think any of the above is available UK.
you want something with as much travel as possible
i'd take stock strut housings, gut them and put in b15 sentra spec V koni yellows if you're on a budget.
use ground control coilover sleeves n springs with 300lb front 350lb rear, oem or the GC top hat (which also gives another .75 inch of travel.
you can build all that for roughly 12-1300$ usd. its some work, but will give you max travel for more road comfort and still run a decent spring rate.
In an ideal world where I could easily get this stuff in the UK and had the cash to do it, yeah sounds great but in the real world Thats around £1900 plus postage, plus import tax. So more like £2200-2400 ...... hardly a little more when a set of BCs that are at £700 to my door. Thats over 3 times more expensive.i suppose thats up to u, cheap or something that doesnt feel like crap for a bit more. its subjective, everyone's ride quality and handling expectations are different. my handling expectations are high, i expect and want a car to do certain things, like turn in and actually dampen road irregularities. hehe
the bc racings and the like have about an inch or less of travel and make everything feel and drive terribly. but they're cheap
the koni's you can get about 2 inches of travel and more droop travel than the bc racings and the like.
to put into perspective, my setup, 400$ for top hat, 400$ for coilover sleeves and springs, 400$ in custom housings, struts 400$ a corner, spherical bearing rear top hat 200$. my 600/700lb rates feel softer than the bc racings i once had at 392/336lbs.
Lol just fried my brain reading all this. For a start I was going to say wow thats alot of money and OTT but then again I have spent well over 2k on my computer system to play soldiers so I cant really comment! Whatever floats your boat.
Danny you need more than suspension to keep your car under control you need a fekin muzzle it bites lol
this is very true, i am a 1bar mong, i dont have any real power addersRemember its all about BHP who talks about camber and corner weights down the pub you bunch of girls! (Says the man who takes out hedges as a profession)
Exactly, the main thing is people are happy with what they have and that's what makes things interesting.this is very true, i am a 1bar mong, i dont have any real power adders
in my form of racing i eat up cars with over 300-400hp with my 100hp civic. its a guilty pleasure to destroy a porsche or some turbo beast with 100hp..
but i do crave more power, im just not willing to spend the money on it.. but for some crazy reason i am willing to drop 3-5000$ on shocks
dunno who's crazier
just pick one that has external adjustmentYou can get a lot of the equipment nick r is dicribing in the uk ,so the postage costs will be minimal and as for struts...there were new ones on ebay this year for £40 each, the struts them selves are very generic and I think the Subaru impreza Classic may be the same as ours......
I used to have a Mk2 Golf when I was younger, from a time when hot hatches cornered on 3 wheels as a design feature Like you say the R can still lift it's back inside to help get around corners. Traits like that are what makes the car fun.soften the impact when i pick up the inside rear.
I'd say the same, I had new found respect for the TT racers after our session over the mountain this year. My M3 suspension was running out of ideas above 145mph with the bumpy roads and insufficient rebound damping. I have a CSL setup that was designed for the ring and if the R isn't running next year I might consider throwing that on. I took it off as it works better in the dry but worse in wet and removed the car's playfulness by being stiffer so for me made the car a worse "road" car.It makes life quite difficult when resesrching what people from off island rate and recommend. I suppose a road setup for us over here would be more like a long circuit setup or similar to a nurburgring setup haha. But also needing compensation for fairly rough roads.
yah it is the pretty standard setup on fwd/awd platforms in north america for SCCA solo racing.I used to have a Mk2 Golf when I was younger, from a time when hot hatches cornered on 3 wheels as a design feature Like you say the R can still lift it's back inside to help get around corners. Traits like that are what makes the car fun.
I looked into the roll centre/camber correction but found the caster improvement solved my camber problem. It has remained on my list of interesting tweaks but my engine failed and life overtook me.
As already discussed, I decided against lowering the car to keep the geometry and changed the springs to slightly longer versions to give better suspension travel.
Interesting thread, always good to hear how other people approach their setups.