TOYO R888 or Similar Suggested

[antgtir]

As in the title im looking to price up some Toyo R888 tyres for the R or some that are for the same use i.e. track.

Size of tyre required is 205/55/16 (appropriate speed rating)

So my question is, where do people buy their's from? how much would i be looking at for a set of 4?

Thanks for the help.

Ant.8)

 

[Trip]

try camskill

 

[mad max]

I got mine from top gear tyres r888 195/50 /16 £95 each fitted

 

[pulsarboby]

look on fleabay ant, theres some good bargain tyres on there.

 

[campbellju]

Is it your only set or will you have a spare?

Yokos are a good but more expensive replacement for R888.
Khumos are highly rated and can be bought in differing compounds

These might be a good compromise for a trackday car where you want a harder compound. They would be a better fit too than 205/55/16

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b102s690p1888

Here is something a bit more fruity that I'd like to try but would need a second set of rims:

http://www.ears.co.uk/motorsport/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_RB5_F2_Moulded_Slick_59.html

 

[antgtir]

Im not to sure as to whether or not use the current wheels or get myself a second set. Obviously the second set would make it easier for changing from the slicks to normal road tyres but travelling down to a track event with a full set of wheels in the back with a reasonable set of tools and clothes if we are staying over would be rather cramped but at least id have a set of tyres to get home lol.

Ive looked on Ebay and as you say Bob there are some reasonable deals but wanted to see if anyone knew other companies that either had offers or were just plainly cheaper than the usual places.

Jim: The Yoko's are a good tyre however im not sure how well they would stand the temps reached on track? I used to have a set on my old escort that lasted well but were a very soft compound so on track coupled with the increased temps they may go "off" as others tend to. Those other tyres you found RB6, ive never come across these in all my time in the tyre industry so i couldn't comment on the quality, although they do look good and are cheap as chips for what they are, hmmm.

If i find a good company that are cheap and well set up ill let you guys know.

Thanks for the replies.

Ant.

 

[GINGA]

The evo boys are saying good things about these http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b262s680p0

 

[antgtir]

I have Hankook tyres on at the moment, granted not the ones in your link but the ones i have started to go off around lap 2/3, im sure the compound and belting of the track day tyres are different so maybe they last alot longer, nice price too, you wouldn't be worrying how long they lasted for

Ant.

 

[pulsarboby]

can we make this thread a sticky?
with different links to tyre companies, so people can add different links if they spot cheap trackday tyres etc to save hunting and searching threads all the time.
would be very usefull for us track chaps;-)

im quite interested in those, in your second link jim, i may buy and try them to see what there like, but not the soft compound, reckon medium soft would be better!

 

[youngsyp]

How good are Toyo T1-R's for the odd track day ?

I seem to remember a thread stating they go off too quickly to be any good ?!

If not, you can get very cheap T1-R's from here: www.mytyres.co.uk

That's where I get my road tyres (215/40-16) from ! ;-)

 

[antgtir]

How good are Toyo T1-R's for the odd track day ?

I seem to remember a thread stating they go off too quickly to be any good ?!

If not, you can get very cheap T1-R's from here: www.mytyres.co.uk

That's where I get my road tyres (215/40-16) from ! ;-)

Ive never tried the T1-R's before so couldn't comment on their ability really. As Bob has said maybe the medium to soft compound is a better compromise for track as to go for the full soft would maybe lead to a reduction in longevity, its a bit of a suck it and see affair really.

If this does go "sticky" then along with different manufacturers, outlets etc maybe peoples honest technical opinions of the tyres they have bought and used would be beneficial for all in a similar situation?

Paul: Thats were i get my tyres from, my dad now uses them to. I used to get them from a wholesalers as i used to work for ATS back in my school college and uni days but My Tyres are extremely competitive price wise compared to them and because of the travelling its cheaper and less hassle to use My Tyres. I fit my own too, give me two leavers and a hammer and ill change a tyre in 15mins;-) :lol:

Ant.

 

[youngsyp]

Paul: Thats were i get my tyres from, my dad now uses them to. I used to get them from a wholesalers as i used to work for ATS back in my school college and uni days but My Tyres are extremely competitive price wise compared to them and because of the travelling its cheaper and less hassle to use My Tyres. I fit my own too, give me two leavers and a hammer and ill change a tyre in 15mins;-) :lol:

Ant.

Yep, I've had a few sets from them now, as has my dad. I find that they're around 1/2 the price of 'highstreet' retailer prices and, my local Quik Fit, will fit them for me for £10 each, including new valve and balance (and wheel wash last time!). Can't argue with that !

 

[campbellju]

im quite interested in those, in your second link jim, i may buy and try them to see what there like, but not the soft compound, reckon medium soft would be better!

They're competition re-moulds. Think Collway but with more choice. Not really designed for road cars IMO. I don't know how soft the medium/soft is, hill climb, race or trackday.

I've seen mixed reviews but only because people are comparing them with tyres significantly more expensive. £ per stickyness they're good value so people love them or hate them.

On the Hankooks, there is a road and track tyre with slightly different names but both "RS2". The track versions are meant to be excellent the road versions are good value (I personally like all the Hankooks I've ever bought for performance per £). I couldn't find the track versions available in the UK when I last looked (Maybe check with camskill or someone else). Goodyear F1's were better in the dry and vastly better in the wet according to car and Driver so I've got those on my shelf.

 

[antgtir]

Having seen that name i must admit its put a downer on those for me. I used to fit these buggers to normal road cars and everytime i used to nearly give them my money to get some better ones :lol:

Think ill wait for others views on these after being tested, still the more the merrier imo with regards to choice.

Cheers Jim.

Ant.

 

[frp]

i use yokohama parada 2's really like them best tyre ive tried so far.
steve

 

[fubar andy]

They're competition re-moulds

I’ve always been told to keep away from re-moulds. :noidea:

I have used Yoko S306’a on track before, not the most trackday orientated tyre in the world, but they lasted quite a while and grip-wise once they were warmed up (about 2 laps) the levels of traction were much improved. However on normal road driving the're total pish!

 

[bracpan]

Kumho tires are very well rated for Hillclimbs and sprints and are made in 3 compounds. For hillclimbing etc they recomend med for the front and soft for the rear on a Pulsar. Would go for harder if you are doing more than 2 laps. Another thing is whats the track surface like!! Places like Llandow will wear a normal road tire in 2 laps, so you can imagine what it would do to soft tires...might be better of with a set of Goodyeer F1's as they would last longer and are cheaper. If you not against the clock why go for an expensive tire that will not last?
Cheers
Phil

 

[Kenny]

Does anyone that tracks their R or runs in sprints/hillclimbs use a tire durometer?

It's the only way your going to get a half decent comparison between tyres as so many factors can be different - surface, track temp, age of the rubber, car setup, driving style, etc, etc, etc.

Still only a rough guide but a mate has been struggling for grip off the line lately so we've tested a couple out of interest.

My Uniroyal Rainsports (18 months old) - 62
Mates Toyo T1-Rs (15 months old) - 68
Mates Mickey Thomas Drag ETs (Part Used) - 38 :shock: Very, very, very soft

 

[bracpan]

Kenny, its a good idea but how many of use can test different tires? I have to rely on past experience ( over 22 years racing) plus what other competitors use etc, also have a look at there tires after the race. I have had as many as 4 sets of wheels and tires for cars in the past, but know I am only alowed one type (1A).
I have found the Goodyear F1 a good all round tire specially in the wet. If i go to
B1 i would go for Kumho.
Although as I said if it not full competition go for a reasonable tire that will not wear out after only a few laps around the track, then just enjoy. If its competition you go for the softest tire you can afford to run. Also taking into acount how long you race, sprint sand hillclimbs are short so can use soft rubber, circuit racing is a different ball game and needs harder rubber.
Another good guide is the wear rate that is put on the tire side wall, generally the lower the number the softer the tire is.
Cheers
phil

 

[antgtir]

I must admit my Hankook's started to fold over when they reached their "off" point and all you could feel was the tyre lapping over which isn't great on high speed corners such as Stowe etc.

I think (common sense really but easy to forget) the track surface type is a big big issue and plays a major part in both set up of the car plus the choice of compound and tyre.

I can see what bracpan is saying with regards to the "why spend more money if you aren't in competition" but to be honest i would say that in order to get the best feel under braking and under acceleration in and out of corners (track that is) genrally the choice of tyre is made for you rather than just price. Me personally would rather have a number of great laps with a great setup and handling than have more with twitchy / dangerous moments, personal preference at the end of the day though.

Some other tyre choices coming out of this conversation though which is great ;-)

Ant.