Ok - I'm sure there are a few gogs on here, and a few of us who just pretend to be... I thought I should really start a roll-call so that I can start organising a meet. - I'm also open to suggestions on that: I like the drive to Bets-Y-Coed, and think that would be a great place for a meet (or maybe Llanberis), but acknowledge it's a bit of a drive for people in the East. I've heard that Horseshoe Pass near Llangollen is also a good drive, and that the Ponderosa Cafe is a good place to stop for a meet, but I've never done it (and it might be a bit of a drive for anyone in the West). I could see that Prestatyn beach (or even Talacre if people aren't scared of getting their R dirty) could be a nice place in the sunny months. I can also be really lazy and suggest somewhere like the Mill House (Broughton Shopping Park) because there seem to be a few people who have been sighted in the area anyway. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your suggestions (and reserve the right to ignore them).