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Legend Fires North West Stages 2017 - 25th Feb

Discussion in 'England - North' started by fubar andy, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. fubar andy

    fubar andy Moderator & N/W Rep Staff Member

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    Alright peeps, its time to get excited again as its:

    Legend Fires North West Stages 2017


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    I will be down for the Friday night sessions and all day Saturday.

    Same as last year, watching rallying, talking rubbish and pub lunch at some point.

    Also we also swindled our way on to the "non spectator" stages in the afternoon.

    If people are keen, we can always pop over later to watch some more of the rally without too much restrictions.

    I've also checked the entry list and there is OVER 100 CARS already entered!!!

    Post up if you are interested. I'll add meet up points later!
     
  2. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    As usual, pencil me in for Saturday. - It's usually a cracking day of rallying.
     
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  3. Wes

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    Do we have any plans to meet at this event?
     
  4. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    I was just going to call Andy once I'd made it to Fleetwood. - I usually start at the waterfront special stages (5 & 6 IIRC).
     
  5. Wes

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    Do you have location and arrival time?
     
  6. fubar andy

    fubar andy Moderator & N/W Rep Staff Member

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    Sorry been manic this week.

    I'll be here @ 9am: (popping into the market for a cup of tea)

    09:15
    FY7 6QE
    Fleetwood Waterfront Spectator Stages. Demo vehicles followed by Car 1 flagged away by the Mayor of Wyre Followed by Competing Cars at 09:30.

    My mobile: 07738 177 577

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  7. campbellju

    campbellju Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, I was available but will now be in Leeds Friday to Saturday so going to have to bow out :-(
     
  8. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    Isn't that the "Docks" stage Andy? I thought the cars weren't starting that until 9:45.

    Either way, I'll probably ring once I'm there. - If I don't find you, I'll probably find Channy (eating).
     
  9. fubar andy

    fubar andy Moderator & N/W Rep Staff Member

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    Is that reprobate going? :D
     
  10. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    No idea, but he's usually there with some young lady...
     
  11. Wes

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    Guys I am still aiming to get down but still having coolant issues which I am hoping to get sorted today now Doris has left.
     
  12. Wes

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    I am gonna have to duck out of this guys. Spent all day re-sealing water pump and it still seems to be leaking in that area.
     
  13. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry to hear it, but we'll be around all day.
     
  14. PobodY

    PobodY Moderator Staff Member

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    Rather than create a new thread, I thought I'd put this here:

    OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT From Motorsport (North West) Ltd
    organisers of the Legend Fires North West Stages


    After careful consideration the senior members of the organising team have come to the conclusion that we will not organise the LFNWS in February 2018.

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    As you are all aware The Road Traffic Act 1988 (Motor Racing) (England) Regulations became law on 10th April and initially we were hoping to be the first organisation to use the Act to include at least one closed road special stage on the LFNWS in the Borough of Wyre next February. However after the MSA published their organisers guidance notes in May of this year it quickly became apparent that it would be almost impossible to get everything in place to meet the deadlines within the legislation to run any Closed Road Stages in February 2018.


    It is felt that to put on another LFNWS similar to this year’s event, would commit too much time and without any new venues would be counterproductive to the future of the event. Thus we feel our time will be better spent trying to achieve the ultimate goal of some closed Road special stages for the 2019 event.

    We must stress that our intention is that the event will return as a bigger and better challenge in February 2019.

    As organisers we are considering running a single venue rally or other small event in February 2018 in order to keep the team together

    On the upside that means everyone has a year to get their GTiR back on the road.
     
  15. johnny gtir

    johnny gtir Well-Known Member

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    Stupid regulations, safety no it's just more red tape and money somewhere in the chain
     
  16. fubar andy

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    This is great news for motorsport. For many years we've not been allowed to have motorsport (racing) on public English roads.

    I work closely with the MSA (and FiA) and the regulations have changed to allow racing on public roads such as rallying and potentially circuit racing (such as BTCC racing on the street of Birmingham for example).

    The problem actually lies with the government and the road traffic acts (police). To even get to theses stages has been stupidity long and regulatory hill climb (no pun intended).

    However we are now at the stages where event organised such as the Blackpool Rally can apply for permission to close roads to host rally stages on public roads. THIS IS FANTASTIC!

    Granted is needs to be approved and I'm guessing that the rally stages they want to submit will need to be authorised by councils and government officials. This will include disruption levels, safety for the public as well as drivers and officials. Sound impact to the local communities, damage limitation and damage to roads from such events and also environmental issues.
    Then you have what kind of postitives it will have such as tourism, exposure, promotion, taxation, sponsorships and potential tv coverage.

    So it might be a bit too late to have the rally stage for 2018, however 2019 with the right paperwork, presentations and positive feedback, this could lead to many more tarmac stages in the future; which would be awesome for rallying and even pave the way for a town or city to host a BTCC, World Endrance, Formula E or even F1 race on public roads.

    ...and I'm all about that!
     
  17. johnny gtir

    johnny gtir Well-Known Member

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    I have read /picked this up wrong. I thought even tho the regs had changed the post was meaning it's still almost impossible and so time consuming that it won't mean any or more events would not happen unless it was a massive event/organisation.

    By what you say this is not the case so I am all for it then. Thanks for your reply as it has cleared up my misinterpretation
     
  18. Wes

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    Yep, finally the government have seen sense!

    There is a lot of paperwork to allow road racing events, but this should be the start of a number of street races in the future, unless the media make this out to be negative events or dangerous to the public!!!

    Maybe BTCC street race in Birmingham again?
     
  20. fubar andy

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    GREAT NEWS ABOUT THE BLACKPOOL RALLY NEXT YEAR!

    Motorsport North West can now confirm that they plan to run the Legend Fires North West Stages on Saturday 23rd March 2019, with a move to a new base in the Historic Lancashire market town of Garstang.

    Following the change in the Road Traffic Act Legislation in 2017 the organisers took a year's sabbatical to concentrate on the vast amount of work needed to pursue the possibility of a number of Closed Road Special Stages for the 2019 event.
    They are now pleased to announce that a MSA permit has been issued which has allowed an application for a Motor Race Order to be submitted to the Local highways authority, Lancashire County Council.

    Motorsport North West have worked closely with Wyre Council for a number of years having run Special Stages on the Council owned Fleetwood Waterfront in the past, so it made sense to seek their support for Closed Road Special Stages. It was at the Councils request that the base of the event has been moved into their Borough. Accordingly Central Service & scrutineering will be located at the Myerscough College, which is well known for their Motorsport Courses. Moving the base East still allows some of the traditional Area to be used, but opens up other possible options in the Lancashire Fells.

    A tremendous amount of work has already been done and there are still numerous hurdles to overcome, but subject to securing the Motor Race Order, it is planned to use a combination of Closed Public Roads and Private venues for the Special Stages, giving approx 50 stage miles in total.
     

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